tipster strike rate, making a profit from betting

Matthew Walton – an associate of our very own Golf Insider – gave us these very interesting views on tipster strike rate.

Tipster strike rate or profit. What’s more important?

This is something which I have thought about, spoken about, and written about a LOT!

Because over the many, many years I have worked in this business, some of the most common questions I get asked by new members or, more often, punters who are considering becoming new members, are along the lines of…

“What’s the strike rate of your best racing tipster?


“How much profit did your best football tipster make last week / month?”

Don’t get me wrong, both are sensible questions. And both are well worth asking of me, or any other service you care to take an interest in joining. Because you need to know if Service X has the kind of strike rate you’re comfortable with, or whether Service Y will actually make money.

You need to know these things.

And they’re questions that I would ask myself when doing my due diligence on any new expert who tugs my coat and tells me they’re the next big thing when it comes to making money at football, or beating the bookies at racing.

They are fundamental to whether you (a) join and / or (b) stay with a service.

And you should ask yourself the question right now, if you haven’t already… which would you prefer?

Or rather, which order would you put them in?

Stupid question, it’s obvious…

Profit, right?

We all bet to make money, primarily. And the more we make, the better.

So if it’s a case of sacrificing a few percentage points in terms of strike rate, in order to generate a bigger overall return… it’s a no-brainer. You should take the cash every time.

Well, you say that. But I know from experience there’s a flipside to this argument.

Take these two notional services:

Service 1 has a 10% strike rate but returns a 40% profit-on-turnover.

Service 2 has a 40% strike rate but returns a 10% PoT.

I know from working in this business for more years than I care to remember, the majority of punters would actually stick with Service 2 longer than Service 1.

“What?? That’s absolute rubbish!“… I hear you cry.

Not so.

Whilst most backers would like to win more money (and I agree with that, who wouldn’t), crucially the manner in which that profit is made also must be to their liking. Making the tipster strike rate very important to them – whether they realise it or not.

A low tipster strike rate saps confidence (from some, not all), cleans out betting banks (only of those who don’t budget properly, or stake erratically), and tests the patience to breaking point (yes, of the less savvy punters)… these cause many to throw in the towel, and often far too quickly.

Which means even though a bigger payday is waiting for them somewhere down the line, they’re simply not able (or are not prepared) to wait for it to arrive.

Believe me, I have seen this time, after time, after time.

Example of tipster strike rate

Take the Golf Insider… a proven profit-maker that has made 500+ units profit to level stakes in five years (Yes! He has generated an average profit of around 100 units per year to level stakes).

I’ve seen this service ditched because it didn’t deliver “certain members” enough winners in a short space of time – in other words, the tipster strike rate was too low.

As a result it is kicked into the long grass because a member has grown impatient, spent up their insufficient funds, or simply lost confidence (in what has already been proven to be a long-term profit maker).

But the point is, the average price of these golf bets is around 80/1.

You’ll never get a high hit rate backing golfers at 80/1.


But you will make a long-term profit if you back enough of them when they are assessed to be over-priced (which is exactly what the Golf Insider does).

This service has an lifetime PoT in excess of 20%. But the low tipster strike rate is seen (incorrectly) as a negative, when it shouldn’t be. Not if you get your staking correct and your mindset right.

You can’t handle the truth!

Of course, when someone joins a service, they do so with the goal of making money from horse racing, or to win big at golf betting… I offer them some initial advice on the importance of a betting bank. And a sensible staking plan, and a degree of level-headedness when it comes to results. And they all nod their heads in agreement.

But throw in the curve ball of a few losers…

Even though they are to be expected with the service they’ve joined (or any other betting service for that matter)…

And it’s panic stations! Needlessly.

As I often say in the office, misquoting Tom Cruise in A Few Good Men…

You can’t handle the strike rate!

And this is something which actually ends up hurting the member themselves in the long run. Because they’re the ones who head for the exit, when if they’d stayed longer, the winners (and profits) would have fallen into their lap.

BUT… strike rates aren’t everything

I totally agree.

I’ve seen services, and this is often the case with football betting syndicates, or laying services on the horses, where the strike rate is higher than, say, a standard horse racing operation or a golf betting cartel… but the PoT is half, a third, maybe even a quarter of the amount on offer with those other services.

And when you factor in costs, it means you either have to stake big amounts to make any money. Or you stake within your own comfort zone and end up with a membership that breaks even, or makes just a few units profit after months of subscribing.

Unless this is a service offering exceptional betting bank growth or Return on Capital, then the above outcomes are not what you want from your betting.

Because you want to show a healthy profit for your efforts… we all do.

And if you get too hung up on the number of winners you’re going to back with a service, or how many bets there were in its longest losing run, or what’s the biggest drawdown of funds it has endured… all to the detriment of the “elephant in the room” (how much profit a service makes)… then you could easily miss out on a nice little profit-generator.

Another example

I think of an example like a footbalI tipster I work with which has a strike rate of close on 46%. This means members can lump on the bets safe in the knowledge that almost every other bet will be a winner… great!

But the flipside is the PoT on this service is nearer the 15% mark. That’s less than the my golf expert.

However, members tend to stick with the Scottish Football Tipster longer. Why? Because it simply provides them with more winners.

So reverting back to the original question, would you prefer a high strike rate or bigger profits?

Is it all down to your risk profile?

Most likely. It all boils down to what kind of punter you are, how prepared you are to accept a few losers, how much “bottle” you have when funds appear to be ebbing away, and whether you can keep faith in a proven service when it’s not necessarily firing on all cylinders.

You have every right to expect the service you’re joining to make as much profit as possible. But do not make the mistake of falling for the horse racing service, or football syndicate, that boasts the highest figure. Because the way it generates that return (e.g. backing big-priced bets with a low strike rate) might not sit well with your own personal way of betting. But by the same token, if a service freely advertises that it only tips long-shots (but does make money doing this) then make sure you give it due time and opportunity to deliver. Because backing at an average price of 80/1 doesn’t produce the same strike rate as backing at 6/4… sad, but true!

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